This lp never grabbed me? I do like some live albums,but something here is missing? There Bootleg of japan to me is alot better then this. Don,t get me wrong,
I do like this and listing to it alot. But I like all of Angel's studio lp's alot more? I think it was rushed to much, and the artwork should have been
alot better. Just my opinion guy's and gal's! What do you think?........STEWY
Live Without a Net
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(11/01/09 9:02 PM) |
STEWY
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acesteele |
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(11/02/09 3:23 AM) |
I don't know if you could say it was rushed, since it didn't come out til 2 years after the
shows were recorded, but Casablanca sure didn't put any effort into it.
Aside from editing it down for time, they barely bothered to mix it. And the album art looks like an afterthought. |
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(11/02/09 8:50 AM) |
To me this is Angel's best album. Is it perfect ?? Nope. But I like all the versions on the album. Too me, ANGEL never had the "killer" studio
album. They had the tunes but I never thought they had the production that did them justice in the studio, especially on the early albums. White Hot &
Sinful, I think the production was pretty good for that type of material.
Live Without a Net too me is where everything sounds like the way they wanted it to sound. Granted the artwork could have been amazing had Casablanca cared about it but it grew on my after all these years. |
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(11/02/09 10:00 AM) |
Warts and all, "Live Without A Net" is fu&%ing awesome!!
Another one that is not perfect, but is great is Aerosmith's "Live Bootleg"! Tim |
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(11/02/09 1:10 PM) |
I believe this is the kind of live album that the band wanted to release at the time, despite the age of the recordings. Although it was more of a contractual
obligation kinda release, the album was intended to focus purely on the music rather than the show.
I much prefer the 'Blowing Great Guns' bootleg and the Hiroshima gig as live documents of the band at their peak, but 'LWOA' is still a great record. |
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(11/02/09 1:37 PM) |
The problem, for me, with either Blowing Great Guns or, especially The Hirsohima and Osaka shows, is the sound quality. Funny for as often as ANGEL were on the
road that there aren't more good quality or soundboard shows available.
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(11/03/09 9:56 AM) |
Actually, I always thought this was done live in studio with a canned audience.Hmm...
It's been ages since i listened to it so I'll have to go back & give it another spin. |
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(11/03/09 1:07 PM) |
While there are some good moments on Live Without A Net, I was never too fond of the album. From the non-"Angel" related title to the artwork and
ultimately the sound it seemed rushed. Also, it was in support of the White Hot so the song selection was not my favorite. I would have preferred a
high-quality production live show from around the 3rd album.
Not sure if it was fully done in the studio, but there were definitely many studio "touch-ups". I have not listened to the album in a while, but I distinctly remember added vocal overdubs and in some cases rhythm guitar behind guitar solos etc! |
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(11/11/09 11:21 AM) |
First off, this album was done in support of Sinful, not White Hot. Second, the audience is canned. This is a bad studio "live" album with bad fake
audience. They did the same thing as Kiss did. Kiss' live albums just sounded better.
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(11/11/09 12:21 PM) |
No, the album was done in support of "White Hot"........Although they did play "Wild N Hot" it was recorded on the White Hot Tour, but Wild
N Hot and 20th Century Foxes were recorded at a later show.
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(11/11/09 1:07 PM) |
Kerry is correct. Majority of album was already in the can from an original plan to release it after 'White Hot'. As Side Two of 'Sinful' was
recorded live sometime during late 78 (not necessarily at an actual gig) this is where 'Wild And Hot' was taken from also. '20th Century Foxes'
was cut from the Shrine performance for 'Foxes'.
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acesteele |
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(11/12/09 12:48 PM) |
A lot of the Sinful record was recorded at the Santa Monica Civic, in the week they had it booked for the 2nd of the Los Angeles concerts scheduled for the
Live Album recording.
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(11/12/09 6:57 PM) |
All for $7.50! That was cheepier then the LP! Man how I would have loved to been there!
STEWY
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(11/12/09 11:50 PM) |
A live Release in support of the Sinful 1979 tour would have been a gas!!... Could have kept a superb Album Alive..Extended Life....
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(11/13/09 8:40 AM) |
I wish they had recorded it on the SINFUL tour. They played a bunch of songs from that album on tour - Waited A Long Time, L.A. Lady, Bad Time.... The only
live document I ever found from the SINFUL tour is an awful quality boot from a show in Cleveland.
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(11/13/09 11:39 AM) |
They played "Waited A Long Time"
at that Santa Monica Civic show. Which means that "somewhere" it's on an outtake reel. Unfortunately, that "somewhere" is probably a
landfill.
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(11/13/09 2:52 PM) |
I'm pretty sure that the awful boot from Cleveland that punkyisgod speaks of was from Gerri Paino. She had sent me one of the same quality from the RnR
Marathon tour. The only thing worth sifting through on that recording was "Your So Cold". The rest was just un listenable. You know I'd be
willing to bet that getting a really solid performance out of these guys for a major live release was a crap-shoot without a lot of editing later on. The live
show was all about energy and excitement. I have heard quite a few boots over the years including some I did myself that got lost over the years and I
can't recall one single live recording that was a solid performance, the closest I have heard was the one where they opened for Styx in Chicago in front of
a pretty decent crowd. Quite a few mistakes, tempos all over the place, totally strange and different lyrics in some songs on most of the other boots. Listen
to Blowing Great Guns even though the audio isn't perfect, because that's about as close as you are going to get to hearing what Angel really sounded
like live, not like the Casablanca release which was total garbage. The most solid player on damned near every song on every boot I have listened to was Punky.
The Hiroshima boots are unique in that we get to hear them play songs from that period of time (even though the recording is awful), but the performance was
awful as well. I'm sure they were pretty hyped up to be in Japan, and after all they were all pretty young at the time. Even Felix more or less said later
that Angel wasn't a terrible band, but they weren't stellar either. But like I said, the show was all about being there in the moment...and it was
truly exciting. Just thinking back about waiting to go see them play, walking in the hall and seeing that stage. Looking at all of these great live shots that
many of you have is like seeing an old friend again. I got it then, and I still get it. In the studio these guys made awesome recordings and I've always
been impressed with the way Punky orchestrated his parts.
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(11/13/09 5:08 PM) |
I have an awful quality tape from Nassau Coliseum on the Sinful tour. It is the same show that I made my awful quality 8mm film that Lee used.
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(11/13/09 9:31 PM) |
I think the Chicago boot It has bad time on it? And Frank say's from our next album Bad Publicity?.......
STEWY
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(11/14/09 9:06 AM) |
Yeah Stewy it does
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(11/16/09 9:54 AM) |
I've got that Nassau show as well. Bad as it is it isn't the worst of the lot - those would be San Francisco 1980 and that damn Cleveland show.
I have a question about the Japanese tour. Were they performing the On Earth material before the album was finished? I ask because the lyrics to all the OEAIIIH material is "wrong" in a lot of spots. I'm wondering if the band was still fleshing out the lyrics or if they were just so new to Frank? |
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